Official 2017 Bye Week Thread

[Mark87]

Rather than a game thread a bye week one. So what's the fix ? Where do we go from here ?

Anyone have a gut feeling on where we are in 7 weeks ?

Oh and by the way they will not practice at least 4 days of the bye by rule:

Article 24
Section 2.
Bye Weeks: During any regular season bye week period occurring during the term of this Agreement, players will be given a minimum of four consecutive days off. Such four-day period must include a Saturday and a Sunday unless the Club is scheduled to play a game on the Thursday following the bye week, in which case players may be required to report to the Club on the Sunday preceding the Thursday game. In such an event, the four-day period shall be Wednesday through Saturday. Any injured player may be required to undergo medical or rehabilitation treatment during such four-day period provided that such treatment is deemed reasonably necessary by the Club’s medical staff.

 

[Walleye67]

Hopefully MM will find a way to un-shrivel his testicles.

But what concerns me is our receivers have had trouble getting open going back to last year. Rodgers finds a way to get it done but it's hard for a newbie to thread the needle like Rodgers has to do. Maybe it's all anecdotal and I'm wrong but it sure SEEMS as if I see a lot more wide open receivers when I watch almost every other offense. Perhaps our offensive scheme just never changes much and once our opponents watch game tape defending our receivers is relatively easy.

 

[Nutbush]

When in the hell is the last time we drafted a WR in the first round????

 

[Mark87]

When in the hell is the last time we drafted a WR in the first round????

2002 Javon Walker

1936 7 Russ Letlow * # G San Francisco [d]
1937 9 Eddie Jankowski * # Back Wisconsin
1938 7 Cecil Isbell * # Back Purdue
1939 9 Larry Buhler Back Minnesota
1940 9 Hal Van Every Back Minnesota
1941 7 George Paskvan Back Wisconsin
1942 9 Urban Odson OT Minnesota
1943 8 Dick Wildung * # OT Minnesota
1944 7 Merv Pregulman G Michigan
1945 11 Walt Schlinkman Back Texas Tech
1946 6 Johnny Strzykalski # Back Marquette
1947 6 Ernie Case Back UCLA
1948 7 Earl Girard Back Wisconsin
1949 5 Stan Heath Back Nevada-Reno
1950 4 Clayton Tonnemaker # C Minnesota
1951 5 Bob Gain # OT Minnesota
1952 4 Vito Parilli # QB Kentucky
1953 7 Al Carmichael HB Southern California
1954 3 Art Hunter # OT Notre Dame
1954 4 Veryl Switzer Back Kansas State [e]
1955 5 Tom Bettis LB Purdue
1956 8 Jack Losch HB Miami
1957 1 Paul Hornung ^ * ‡ # HB Notre Dame [f]
1957 4 Ron Kramer * # End Michigan
1958 3 Dan Currie * # LB Michigan State
1959 1 Randy Duncan QB Iowa
1960 5 Tom Moore # RB Vanderbilt
1961 12 Herb Adderley ^ * # CB Michigan State [c]
1962 14 Earl Gros Back LSU
1963 14 Dave Robinson ^ * # LB Penn State [c]
1964 13 Lloyd Voss DE Nebraska
1965 7 Donny Anderson * # RB Texas Tech [g]
1965 10 Larry Elkins WR Baylor
1966 9 Jim Grabowski RB Illinois [h]
1966 13 Gale Gillingham * # G Minnesota
1967 9 Bob Hyland G Boston College
1967 25 Don Horn QB San Diego State
1968 5 Fred Carr * # LB UTEP [j]
1968 26 Bill Lueck G Arizona
1969 12 Rich Moore DT Villanova
1970 2 Mike McCoy DT Notre Dame [k]
1970 16 Rich McGeorge TE Elon
1971 9 John Brockington * ! # RB Ohio State [l]
1972 7 Willie Buchanon * ! # CB San Diego State [m]
1972 11 Jerry Tagge QB Nebraska [n]
1973 21 Barry Smith WR Florida State
1974 12 Barty Smith RB Richmond
1975 — No pick — — [o]
1976 23 Mark Koncar OT Colorado [p]
1977 9 Mike Butler DE Kansas
1977 28 Ezra Johnson * # DE Morris Brown [q]
1978 6 James Lofton ^ * # WR Stanford [c]
1978 26 John Anderson * LB Michigan [r]
1979 15 Eddie Lee Ivery RB Georgia Tech
1980 4 Bruce Clark # DT Penn State
1981 6 Rich Campbell QB California
1982 22 Ron Hallstrom G Iowa [t]
1983 11 Tim Lewis CB Pittsburgh
1984 12 Alphonso Carreker DE Florida State
1985 7 Ken Ruettgers OT Southern California [v]
1986 — No pick — — [w]
1987 4 Brent Fullwood # RB Auburn
1988 7 Sterling Sharpe * # WR South Carolina
1989 2 Tony Mandarich OT Michigan State
1990 18 Tony Bennett LB Mississippi [x]
1990 19 Darrell Thompson RB Minnesota
1991 19 Vinnie Clark CB Ohio State [y]
1992 5 Terrell Buckley CB Florida State [z]
1993 15 Wayne Simmons LB Clemson
1993 29 George Teague S Alabama [aa]
1994 16 Aaron Taylor G Notre Dame [bb]
1995 32 Craig Newsome CB Arizona State [cc]
1996 27 John Michels OT Southern California
1997 30 Ross Verba G Iowa
1998 19 Vonnie Holliday DE North Carolina [dd]
1999 25 Antuan Edwards S Clemson
2000 14 Bubba Franks # TE Miami
2001 10 Jamal Reynolds DE Florida State [ee]
2002 20 Javon Walker # WR Florida State [ff]
2003 29 Nick Barnett LB Oregon State
2004 25 Ahmad Carroll CB Arkansas
2005 24 Aaron Rodgers ‡ # Quarterback California
2006 5 A. J. Hawk # LB Ohio State
2007 16 Justin Harrell DT Tennessee
2008 — No pick — — [gg]
2009 9 B. J. Raji # DT Boston College
2009 26 Clay Matthews III # LB Southern California [hh]
2010 23 Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa
2011 32 Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State
2012 28 Nick Perry DE Southern California
2013 26 Datone Jones DE UCLA
2014 21 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix # S Alabama
2015 30 Damarious Randall S Arizona State
2016 27 Kenny Clark NT UCLA

 

[Nutbush]

Thank you sir.

 

[Scoremore12]

I think the problem with WR not getting open all the time is that the DBs know the routes. They can look at the formation we are in and know the routes these guys will run and can run with them. This has been going on for awhile. McCarthy needs to change things up and he just doesn't do it.

 

[Defensewins]

This says it all... 3rd and 9 in the 4th, needed the 20 or the game is over.

 

[Packersunion]

This says it all... 3rd and 9 in the 4th, needed the 20 or the game is over.

Which is sad, considering it was only 3rd and 9, not 3rd and 20. I understand there will be growing pains, and MM was trying his best to keep Hundley from losing the game, but for a guy who's been in the system for 3 years, a 9 yard pass shouldn't be asking too much.

MM will quickly learn that he's not going to be able to "hide" Hundley. For better or worse, he's going to have to trust him to run the offense and open up the passing game a bit. You can hide marginal quarterbacks if you have an elite defense and a great running game. Now, the Packers rushing attack has shown some promise recently, but the defense is still complete garbage. This is not going to change this year, and if the past is any indication, it might never change.

It's no secret that MM's coaching will now be put under the microscope, and for good reason. This is one of those rare chances we get to see what he can do without his security blanket. Sunday was his first test, and he failed. That's ok, it was his first game without AR, so we shouldn't put TOO much stock into it just yet. But he now has two weeks to prepare a game plan for his 3rd-year QB, and the stakes will be greater. 87 passing yards won't win us a game, even if we had the '85 Bears defense. I think we can all accept it if Hundley loses games. But it'll be much tougher to accept it if MM continues to.

 

[TW]

We can all hope that Hundley does better the rest of the year, but I doubt it's going to matter. With the Capers defense totally destroyed every week, no matter how much he works on his game, it's not going to be enough. Even the Bears are finding new life on the field, while the Packers flounder.

 

[Cheesedog]

Players aside, something MM said (or didn't) during his presser highlites a much bigger issue than whether Hundley can play well enough to win.

Mm had no clue what Jones had done during the game. The ONE guy on offense who did anything, and MM was totally clueless about his basic stats. The guy running the offense didn't know what was working. That level of aloofness is staggering. Any coach worth his salt would have known exactly how Jones was doing, which plays Jones ran worked best, that he was the only guy performing on offense, and found ways to get the ball to him. Instead he kept trying to give it to Hundley.. 25 passes vs 17 runs to Jones.

MM is not going to turn Hundley into some high performing QB. Hundley can probably play well enough not to lose you a game (maybe) but it's the rest of the team that worries me.

Whenever Arod goes down, we see a complete and total lack of leadership from other players. The lack of leadership is one of the key cogs to why this team underachieves. Who really stepped up this past game? A rookie. Where were the highly paid defensive "stars", so called....?

I think the Pack is lucky to be at .500 after 7 weeks. And personally there'd be no way I'd bring Arod back this year. Second break, requiring surgery, on a season where the team as a whole is lacking? Don't sacrifice next year to rush him back. Let it completely heal.