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Look at our resident 2021 Draft Gurus....point well taken
Rodgers Wants Out
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You need to add the word “if” they offered anything.
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Thanks for the insight! Great perspective.A lot of coulda, woulda ,shoulda in this thread. NONE OF THAT MATTERS ANYMORE.
What I am saying on this is that Aaron Rodgers is not infallible and that he needs to play his best when we need him to. We feel this way, and have always felt this way, BECAUSE he is so great, not because we don't believe in his greatness. BECAUSE he can place a football nearly anywhere on the field that he wants to, I expect him to do so when we need it. BECAUSE he can read a defense and recall every single time he's ever seen that look before, I expect him to find the open guy and make the check down when it's the best option, rather than take a sack or throw it away.
It is these traits that I have seen in Brees and Brady which are mental and decision-based that I have always wanted and waited for Rodgers to fully embrace and develop. You just couldn't sack Brees. He ALWAYS got that ball out. Aaron Rodgers is the most TALENTED QB I've ever seen play football. He has ALL the ability. We are LUCKY to have him.
But he also has qualities that can still be improved. And MLF proved that by, well, improving him. Like Rodgers' play on the field LOOKS better and the results are better. Because MLF got buy in on the system and got Rodgers comfortable and shifted Rodgers' focus on each play from "make a big play but don't turn it over" to "complete the pass," which is literally what we needed.
So when we look at THIS management regime, and THIS coaching regime and THIS roster--not in the past--we say "what on earth is Rodgers complaining about?" or "the team management has given Rodgers his best shot at a ring in years" it's not a slight at Rodgers. It's recognizing his flaws and areas of improvement, understanding how vital MLF was to actually improving those things, and crediting the statistically verified top-notch OL, top-notch running game, and top 10 defense for their role in our team's success. It's not discrediting Rodgers' role in our team success. But when we talk about Rodgers "carrying a team" and base it on 2016 or earlier, it just has NO relevance to today.
Because in 2019 Rodgers played mediocre football and the team went 13-3 and lost in the NFC Championship game. And in 2020 Rodgers played MVP football and the team went 13-3 and lost in the NFCCG. That's not to say there was no improvement. Obviously, the team was better and looked better in 2020 than 2019. The eye test can tell us that. The advanced stats can tell us that. But to deny that this team has what it takes around Rodgers only discredits the contributions of others that are absolutely, statistically and visually, undeniable. And to pretend that Rodgers' mistakes are more excusable than anyone else's mistakes simply because Rodgers often plays lights out doesn't make any sense. Davante Adams is the best WR in football and he still dropped that TD pass that cost us 4 points in a game we lost by 5 and missed a 2-point conversion. Davante Adams is great. But he should have caught that ball and it cost us.
It's not an argument about who cost us the most or the least. It's not the Olympics of how we lost where we have to tally up everyone's scores and assign levels of blame. It's just that there is blame to go around. And the improvement of the team the past couple years has been undeniable, and Rodgers' improved play is EVIDENCE of that. If you are of the mind that Rodgers could have ALWAYS played this well, but just didn't because he was mad at the previous front office and coaching staff, you are making MY point and not yours. The point is that Rodgers has improved lately, which either means that the team around him improved, that Rodgers always could have played this well and was simply checked out, or some combination of both. (I'm in a combination of both places, as I often am)
So if the team is getting better around him and if Rodgers' poor play in the past was a combination of the team and scheme around him and his listless uninspired play, then for the former problem, we are fixing it rapidly; and for the latter problem, he has only himself to blame, and deserves that blame. Either way, NOW is an awfully dumb time for him to be upset. Because everything is finally going well on the field.
That's why I think this has nothing to do with rings and nothing to do with the roster and nothing to do with first round WRs and everything to do with control.
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I just don't know what kind of real value there is out there right now. Packinatl can probably lay out the cap ramifications too. This is a sticky situation on many fronts. I still think he plays for the Pack this year.
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i think there is a possibility that his value could peak during training camp if there is a team that believes they have a shot at the super bowl, but loses their starting qb to injury. but it would have to be a team outside our division for the packers to even consider it.
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No that has nothing to do with his decrease / increase of his value. It’s the same now as it was in April. His value is determined on need fit and financial considerations. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The trade pool becomes larger after the 2021-22 season
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One other thing. A contract restructure is not the same as an extension.
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No other team in our division is that close to being a contender. But yes that’s another factor
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Just remember the Sam Bradford trade for those wondering about “value”
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