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Maybe, just maybe, Rodgers knew a bit
Post Game Eagles Edge Out Packers 10-7
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Maybe, just maybe, Rodgers knew a bit
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He and especially Adams covered up these same issues. Going back to 2020 and 2021, lot of the same predictable 2nd down runs for little gain, but Rodgers and Adams were able to convert 3rd and medium.
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After time to marinate on this, here are my thoughts on the state of the Packers.
1. The offensive line is a hot mess and is not going to get any better. I've thought for a couple years that this unit has been overrated, but now Jenkins is out for a while, leaving either Rhyan or Monk to play center, Banks has been a flop that shouldn't have been brought in in the first place, and I'm just not that big a fan of the rest of the guys. That's why I laugh when I see talk of "We need the money to resign Tom, Walker, etc. Why? They're not that special. The O-line is not going to get better this year, and therefore, neither will the offense.
2. I overestimated the talent of our receiving corps. Badly. It's time to stop living in the past and see that this unit is chock full of #3 receivers that overachieved in the second half of 2023. I would say Watson is the exception, but that doesn't really help when he can't stay on the field. Golden is the legit #1 Jacobs suggested we go out and get, and I hope the front office moves on from a few of these deadbeats.
3. I still believe we can win with Love, but he needs to be coached up better as far as decision-making goes.
4. The defense has a game where they look like an SB force, then the next game gets carved up. Consistency is an issue.
5. All the fire MLF stuff is over the top. His record is such that he would get picked up quickly elsewhere, not to mention you basically married us to him when you committed a ton of $ to Love. I don't see him going anywhere until after next season if then.
6. Gute is a slug as well as his scouting staff and pro personnel guys. This needs to be addressed.
1. The offensive line is a hot mess and is not going to get any better. I've thought for a couple years that this unit has been overrated, but now Jenkins is out for a while, leaving either Rhyan or Monk to play center, Banks has been a flop that shouldn't have been brought in in the first place, and I'm just not that big a fan of the rest of the guys. That's why I laugh when I see talk of "We need the money to resign Tom, Walker, etc. Why? They're not that special. The O-line is not going to get better this year, and therefore, neither will the offense.
2. I overestimated the talent of our receiving corps. Badly. It's time to stop living in the past and see that this unit is chock full of #3 receivers that overachieved in the second half of 2023. I would say Watson is the exception, but that doesn't really help when he can't stay on the field. Golden is the legit #1 Jacobs suggested we go out and get, and I hope the front office moves on from a few of these deadbeats.
3. I still believe we can win with Love, but he needs to be coached up better as far as decision-making goes.
4. The defense has a game where they look like an SB force, then the next game gets carved up. Consistency is an issue.
5. All the fire MLF stuff is over the top. His record is such that he would get picked up quickly elsewhere, not to mention you basically married us to him when you committed a ton of $ to Love. I don't see him going anywhere until after next season if then.
6. Gute is a slug as well as his scouting staff and pro personnel guys. This needs to be addressed.
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that should have been #1. you buried the lead.
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Watch the whole play... thats inside zone to the left of the QB.... the hole is there if Jacobs steps right and one cuts left...he ran right and never cut back to the gap, which opens.
Was ready to rant last night but decided to not post. I was ready to fire both Gute and ML right after.
Gute probably needs to go but if you do that, any GM worth hiring will want to bring in his own coach and not be forced to accept a holdover guy, so firing the GM likely means firing the HC. I'm okay with that if it moves the team forward but some might not be.
Gute had a horrible off-season which follows his Jekyll & Hyde pattern. His '20 and '21 drafts were mostly awful outside of Love. '22, '23, and '24 were solid. '25 is looking awful right now. Golden is small and fast but can't get open. Belton is a project at best. SWilliams is totally unprepared to play WR and telegraphs that we're running something to the edges. Sorrell is just a depth piece. Oliver is MIA. Brinson is just a single digits snap guy, if he's even active. Robinson is gone. JWilliams is MIA. The rookie class is contributing nothing. The FAs, Banks and Hobbs, are no better than the guys they replaced. Gute added nothing to get better until he added Parsons making the defense marginally better.
I put some of this on ML and his staff. The 4th down to essentially end the game wouldn't have counted had Jacobs gotten to the marker due to their 2nd misalignment penalty of the day. That kind of stuff shouldn't be happening and to me speaks to practice and preparation and attention to details. Who is watching and adressing that stuff? ML is calling plays so maybe he's too wrapped up in that and other stuff to deal with those kinds of details, but Stenavich could be handling that, or Butkus, or Getsy, or Lewis, or Mahaffey, or ??? You've got all these coaches and nobody notices a thing like that - wtf!
Rant over.
Gute probably needs to go but if you do that, any GM worth hiring will want to bring in his own coach and not be forced to accept a holdover guy, so firing the GM likely means firing the HC. I'm okay with that if it moves the team forward but some might not be.
Gute had a horrible off-season which follows his Jekyll & Hyde pattern. His '20 and '21 drafts were mostly awful outside of Love. '22, '23, and '24 were solid. '25 is looking awful right now. Golden is small and fast but can't get open. Belton is a project at best. SWilliams is totally unprepared to play WR and telegraphs that we're running something to the edges. Sorrell is just a depth piece. Oliver is MIA. Brinson is just a single digits snap guy, if he's even active. Robinson is gone. JWilliams is MIA. The rookie class is contributing nothing. The FAs, Banks and Hobbs, are no better than the guys they replaced. Gute added nothing to get better until he added Parsons making the defense marginally better.
I put some of this on ML and his staff. The 4th down to essentially end the game wouldn't have counted had Jacobs gotten to the marker due to their 2nd misalignment penalty of the day. That kind of stuff shouldn't be happening and to me speaks to practice and preparation and attention to details. Who is watching and adressing that stuff? ML is calling plays so maybe he's too wrapped up in that and other stuff to deal with those kinds of details, but Stenavich could be handling that, or Butkus, or Getsy, or Lewis, or Mahaffey, or ??? You've got all these coaches and nobody notices a thing like that - wtf!
Rant over.
Let me address this, and I'll generalize it. You can practice, hurry up until the cows come home, and be perfect every time, and then crap the bed live.
Consider in this game, the starting center you used all season is out, big issue number 1. So the whole operation, timing-wise, is toast. Second thing, in a hurry, we have Doubs out, who has become the go-to guy as well as Kraft. Those two were conversation machines.
The formation thing is a league point of emphasis that everyone thinks is stupid (However, it's okay to jump offside by a full second?) Musgrave is trying to play Kraft in this scenario, and he's getting his ass handed to him.
That whole 'hurry up' segment is a predetermined set of plays, and Love has to pick one, line them up, and go. In this case he should have checked out. If you're going to bitch about coaching, then Stenavich is your guy. He crafts that play sheet, and along with others, they give Love those calls during the week.
My point is, there is a whole hell of a lot more to it than just one thing, etc.You can NOT just take it at face value without taking into account those injuries before and during the game. We've been talking about bad depth for months now.