Post Game: Baltimore runs over GB

I’m not upset with how the season unfolded; they’re going to finish about where I expected. The Packers were a crap team last year that convinced themselves they were a contender and sold their future to get Parsons. One player doesn’t take a team lacking premium talent all over the roster and instantly make them a Super Bowl contender.


Don’t get me wrong Parsons is great; until he went down, you could almost forget the Packers don’t have a decent CB on their roster. My point is to dispel this notion they were some awesome team before he got hurt because that’s objectively not true.

People are bitching about MLF everywhere but I agree with Mark that until you send Gute packing and redo that front office the HC won't matter much.
 
WingT22 said:
I’m not upset with how the season unfolded; they’re going to finish about where I expected. The Packers were a crap team last year that convinced themselves they were a contender and sold their future to get Parsons. One player doesn’t take a team lacking premium talent all over the roster and instantly make them a Super Bowl contender.


Don’t get me wrong, Parsons is great; until he went down, you could almost forget the Packers don’t have a decent CB on their roster. My point is to dispel this notion that they were some awesome team before he got hurt because that’s objectively not true.

People are bitching about MLF everywhere but I agree with Mark that until you send Gute packing and redo that front office the HC won't matter much.
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Very hard to feel good about where this team is headed. This season is shot, but the bigger problem is money tied up in Banks, Hobbs (my God what whiffs), potentially Jacobs...the two young stars, Kraft and Parsons, coming off ACLs. The OL has issues. The secondary is a mess. Not great assets to improve other areas of the team. It's not a great spot to be in. This was definitely a go-for-it type of season, and it looked like it might pay off until 2 weeks ago. Looks very different now.
 
Where does the buck stop on the roster? I'm not a Gute hater, not at all. I think he nailed the Jordan Love pick and that alone should have been enough to carry him to job security in GB as long as he wanted it. I would still do the Parsons trade 100 times out of 100, because the reality is you don't know when in a window you will be that one great player away, even if you aren't right now. It's not a thing you can predict and have it line up perfectly.

Ultimately someone is responsible for the roster building philosophy. I don't even want to hone in on this player or that, this pick or that. Just look at the philosophy. The type of OL - look at them all and then sum them up, generalize. Does this work? Has this worked over X number of years? The type of corners - look at them all and generalize again. Has this worked out? The DE/DT group - sum it up into a type, and ask has it worked out? Is it working now?

I guess what I'm getting at is, I tend to bristle when people say "well this guy hasn't worked so fire everyone" because every GM and scouting group will have misses. Over time though you start to see that the misses happen not just because they're random but because a philosophy drives the selection. The thing about philosophies is, you can't really change them in a person, it's just how they see their professional world.

It's all feeling very much like the mid-teens Packers. Everyone knew TT wasn't cutting it any more but organizational malaise and sloth prevented them from holding him accountable for failures. They can't let the same thing happen in the Jordan Love era with the Gutekunst group. There's a danger in moving on from him but it's at the point where there's simply no upside to keeping him and his circle around, you're just going to get more of the same.
 
Any injury updates from last night? If Willis injury is bad enough he can't play next weekend I am going out and signing Sean Clifford off the Bengals PS and letting Tune and him be the QBs for the last game of the year.
 
GBP4EVER said:
Any injury updates from last night? If Willis injury is bad enough he can't play next weekend I am going out and signing Sean Clifford off the Bengals PS and letting Tune and him be the QBs for the last game of the year.
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not going to get those updates that fast....maybe this afternoon but more likely Monday.
 
This was the worst performance of the defense in years. Since the 2022 Eagles game when they put up 360 on the ground vs GB. I think even if you had Wyatt and Parsons this game probably is not much different as Wyatt is just one man and Parsons run D is not his strong aspect. No one on this D had any idea what to do. I think it was part effort and part on Hafley for lack of preparation.

If I am the Bears my plan is simple run it 40 times right at GB since they have shown they can't stop the run lately.
 
There are some guys that you should cut after that lazy effort last night. Now, let's be fair, 9-10 of those guys had the flu late in the week.
However, and I hate to beat a dead horse, but why don't we have the depth to fix this? The DL was beaten all night long, and it didn't matter who we put in. The LB are not good enough to overcome without the DL holding gaps.

Then add in a couple of DB who refuse to tackle, and it wasn't pleasant!

I see a very beat-up football team without its leaders, also the youngest team, and that shows a lot. RP hit the nail on the head, the front office philosophy isn't working at all and needs a restart. If the new GM adds in the talent and MLF can't make it work then fire his ass too but it starts in the FO.
 
rpiotr01 said:
Is that a WR single blocking Gary? Seems like above everything else it's his job to set the edge and not get pinned inside like that. Then Cooper gets lost, no angle. Geez.
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It's Gary's MO thru his career a guy who will be high effort one time and just mailing it in the next. I don't care if Parsons will be ready or not for next season. Cut Gary in March take the $10 million in cap savings and move on. Maybe Sorrell or Oliver step up in camp next year. LVN he's a guy you clearly won't pick up his option and allow to play out his last year of his contract next year.
 
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