Official 2019 Week 13 Green Bay vs NY Giants Thread

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After a trip last week to the West Coast, the Green Bay Packers go to the other side of the country to play the New York Giants.

Overall, the Packers are 28-23-2 against the Giants in the regular season.
Including the postseason, Green Bay has won two straight over the Giants.
This will be the 11th time the Packers and Giants have played each other in the month of December, and the first since 2011, when Green Bay won at New York, 38-35.
In each of the last four contests (including postseason) between the two teams, the winning team has scored 23-plus points while the losing team was held to 16 or fewer points.
It is the second straight year Green Bay will play at MetLife Stadium, having defeated the New York Jets in overtime last season in December in Week 16 (44-38).
It is the first time since 2013 that the Packers will face the Giants at MetLife Stadium.
This marks the second straight year the Packers have played on the road in the first two games after the bye week.
It will be the fourth game Green Bay has played at noon CT this season, having won the previous three contests.
The Packers return home next week to take on the Washington Redskins, marking the first time Washington has played at Lambeau in December.


GOOD START

Green Bay has won eight of its first 11 games, marking the eighth time the Packers have won at least eight of their first 11 games of the regular season since 1970 (11-0 in 2011, 10-1 in 2007 and 8-3 in 2014, 2002, 2001, 1997 and 1996).
With a win, Head Coach Matt LaFleur (8-3) would tie Mike Holmgren and Mike Sherman (9-7) for the most NFL wins by a Packer head coach in their first season.
Green Bay is one of eight NFL teams with at least eight wins this season, with five of those teams residing in the NFC.
The Packers are 6-2 this season in Sunday games, a .750 winning percentage that ranks No. 6 in the NFL in 2019.
Green Bay is 5-2 against NFC teams this season with a .714 winning percentage that ranks No. 5 among NFC teams.
The Packers have started 3-0 in the NFC North for the first time since 2012 and for just the fourth time (2011 and 2002) since the division was formed in 2002.
Green Bay joins New England (4-0), Dallas (4-0), Seattle (3-0), Kansas City (3-0) and Cleveland (2-0) as the only teams to be undefeated in division games this season.


WITH THE CALL

FOX Sports, now in its 26th season as an NFL network television partner, will broadcast the game.
Play-by-play man Thom Brennaman joins analyst Chris Spielman and sideline reporter Shannon Spake.
Milwaukee’s WTMJ (620 AM), airing Green Bay games since November 1929, heads up the Packers Radio Network that is made up of 50 stations in four states. Wayne Larrivee (play-by-play), two-time Packers Pro Bowler Larry McCarren (analyst) and three-time Packers Pro Bowler and two-time All-Pro John Kuhn (sideline) will call the action. McCarren first joined the team’s broadcasts in 1995 and enters his 25th season calling Packers games. After originally being paired together in 1999, McCarren and Larrivee enter their 21st season of broadcasts together. They surpassed Jim Irwin and Max McGee for the most regular-season and postseason games broadcast for the Packers with 313 at the 2018 season opener against Chicago.
The broadcast is also available on Sirius Satellite Radio (WTMJ feed).
Sports USA Radio will air the game on radio across the country with John Ahlers (play-by-play) and Brandon Noble (analyst) calling the action.
DIRECTV subscribers can watch the game on Channel 712.


THE DOPE ON THIS WEEK’S OPPONENT:

Packers vs. Giants:

All-time, regular season: 28-23-2
All-time, postseason: 4-3
All-time, in Green Bay: 18-16-2
Streaks: The Packers have won the previous two meetings, including the 2017 NFC Wild Card playoff game.
Last meeting, regular season: Oct. 9, 2016, Packers won, 23-16, Lambeau Field

COACHES CAPSULES

Matt LaFleur: 8-3, .727; 1st NFL season

Pat Shurmur: 17-43, .283; 4th NFL season

Head to Head: 0-0

vs. Opponent: 0-0

MATT LaFLEUR…In his first season as the Packers’ 15th head coach.

In his 11th season in the NFL, having served as an offensive coordinator for two seasons (Los Angeles Rams, 2017; Tennessee Titans, 2018), a quarterbacks coach for six seasons (Washington Redskins, 2010-13; Atlanta Falcons, 2015-16), and an offensive assistant for two seasons (Houston Texans, 2008-09).
Guided the Titans’ offense in 2018 to a No. 7 league ranking in rushing (126.4 ypg) as Tennessee registered 11 games with 100-plus rushing yards, tied for No. 2 in the NFL.
Helped the Rams lead the league in scoring with an average of 29.9 points per game in 2017, more than doubling their average from 2016 (14.0 ppg).
Tutored QB Matt Ryan, who led the league in passer rating (117.1) in 2016 on his way to being named NFL Most Valuable Player by The Associated Press.
Coached rookie QB Robert Griffin III with the Redskins in 2012, who became the first QB in team history to win AP Offensive Rookie of the Year.
PAT SHURMUR…In his second season as the Giants’ 18th head coach.

His first season as the Giants’ head coach was highlighted by RB Saquon Barkley, who took home Offensive Rookie of the Year honors after leading the NFL with 2,028 yards from scrimmage and 11 touchdowns.
Spent the 2016 and 2017 seasons as Minnesota’s offensive coordinator, where the Vikings won the NFC North title and advanced to the NFC Championship game in 2017 behind an offense that ranked in the top 10 in scoring (23.9 ppg) and rushing (122.3 ypg).
Was named the head coach for Cleveland in 2011 and tutored QB Colt McCoy to a career high in passing yards (2,733) and passing touchdowns (14).
Served as an assistant in the NFL for 17 seasons, including two stints with Philadelphia (1999-08; 2013-15), St. Louis (2009-10) and Minnesota (2016-17).
THE PACKERS-GIANTS SERIES

The winner of each playoff matchup between the Packers and Giants has won the NFL Championship or Super Bowl.
After New York won the first matchup 6-0 in 1928, the Packers followed up by winning six of the next seven contests.
Green Bay’s five-game winning streak from 1961-69 included two NFL Championship games and is the longest streak of the series.
New York and Green Bay met in the NFL Championship five times (1938, ’39, ’44, ’61 and ’62) with Green Bay winning each except 1938.
The Packers and Giants met in the postseason during the Super Bowl era in the NFC Championship during the 2007 postseason and the NFC Divisional round during the 2011 playoffs.
NOTABLE CONNECTIONS

Giants head coach Pat Shurmur is the nephew of former Packers defensive coordinator, Fritz Shurmur, who helped lead Green Bay to two NFC titles and a win in Super Bowl XXXI... Packers CB Ka’dar Hollman attended Burlington Township High School in nearby Burlington, N.J. ...Packers LB Rashan Gary attended Paramus Catholic (N.J.) HS and was born in Plainfield, N.J. ...Packers S Darnell Savage attended Caravel Academy in Bear, Del. ...Packers running backs coach Ben Sirmans is from East Orange, N.J. …Packers LB B.J. Goodson was drafted in the fourth round of the 2016 NFL Draft by the Giants and played three seasons with New York before being traded to the Packers before the 2019 season...Packers director of player engagement Grey Ruegamer played four seasons with the Giants and was on the Super Bowl XLII championship team…Tom Olivadotti, the father of Packers inside linebackers coach Kirk Olivadotti, was a defensive assistant with the Giants for four seasons (2000-03)…Packers T Yosh Nijman was born in Orange, N.J. and attended Columbia High School in Maplewood, N.J. ...Giants G Kevin Zeitler attended Wisconsin Lutheran HS in Milwaukee and played collegiately for the Wisconsin Badgers…Packers special teams coordinator Shawn Mennenga was on the Cleveland coaching staff when Shurmur was the head coach…Giants offensive coordinator Mike Shula was the quarterbacks coach in Jacksonville when Packers TE Marcedes Lewis was on the Jaguars…Packers CB Tramon Williams was on the Arizona Cardinals for the 2017 season when Giants defensive coordinator James Bettcher held the same position. Additionally, Giants assistant special teams coach Anthony Blevins was on the Arizona staff during Williams’ time with the Cardinals…Sirmans and Giants outside linebackers coach Mike Dawson worked on the Boston College staff together for three seasons (2009-11)…Giants wide receivers coach Tyke Tolbert held the same position with the Broncos when Packers G/T Billy Turner was on the teams (2016-17)…Giants strength and conditioning coach Aaron Wellman was the assistant strength and conditioning coach at Notre Dame during Dexter Williams’ freshman season. Additionally, Wellman was the strength and conditioning coach at Michigan when Packers defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery was on the coaching staff (2011-12) and offensive quality control Kevin Koger played for the Wolverines (2011)…Giants assistant offensive line coach Ben Wilkerson held the same position with the Chicago Bears when Packers S Adrian Amos was on the team (2015-17)…Giants defensive backs coach Everett Withers was the assistant head coach/co-defensive coordinator/safeties coach at Ohio State during Packers C Corey Linsley’s junior and senior years (2012-13)…Packers LB Za’Darius Smith and Giants RB Javorius-Buck Allen played four seasons together in Baltimore (2015-18)…Tramon Williams, Giants S Antoine Bethea, LB Deone Bucannon and LB Markus Golden were teammates in Arizona in 2017…Packers WR Jake Kumerow and Giants WR Cody Core spent time on Cincinnati’s roster together in 2016…Turner, Giants P Riley Dixon, WR Bennie Fowler III and WR Cody Latimer were teammates in Denver for two seasons (2016-17)…Giants LB Alec Ogletree was with the L.A. Rams in 2017 when Packers head coach Matt LaFleur was the offensive coordinator. Additionally, Olivadotti was his position coach at Georgia...Giants S Jabrill Peppers was with Cleveland when Mennenga was the special teams assistant coach (2017)…Packers CB Josh Jackson and Giants LB Josiah Tauaefa were teammates at Lake Dallas HS in Corinth, Texas…Turner and Giants S Michael Thomas were teammates in Miami for three seasons (2014-16)…Former college teammates include: Packers CB Tony Brown, P JK Scott and Giants DL Dalvin Tomlinson (Alabama); Packers DL Montravius Adams, Giants G Chad Slade and WR Darius Slayton (Auburn); Goodson and Giants RB Wally Gallman (Clemson); Packers T David Bakhtiari and Giants OT Nate Solder (Colorado); Packers G Lucas Patrick and Giants QB Daniel Jones (Duke); Packers LB Rashan Gary and Giants S Jabrill Peppers (Michigan); Packers RB Dexter Williams and Giants CB Julian Love (Notre Dame); Packers S Adrian Amos and Giants CB Grant Haley (Penn State); Packers RB Aaron Jones and Giants G Will Hernandez (Texas-El Paso); Packers LB Oren Burks and Giants G Spencer Pulley (Vanderbilt).
 

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Wish there was such a thing as a colon-cleanse for a football team so they can get all the crap out of themselves.

Hoping they can get on a good streak down the stretch. There's still a chance they can get a first week bye if they can get it together.
 

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This should be a no stress win but it’s the NFL so who knows. This is a 8-3 team if you look at the standings but it’s closer to 6-5 talent wise. Don’t trust the defense and offense has been inconsistent. Special teams will be a factor Temps in the 40’s but rain might make this closer than it should be

GB 24 NY 17
 

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1: Don't get down over the Niners game. Officials clamp down on 3-4 teams every week. This time they clamped down on our offense, especially early. Don't let it mess with our heads.

2: Aaron needs to play Lafleur Ball, not McCarthy Ball.

3: Defense needs to be able to cover the middle of the field, especially TEs. Since we're giving up 61 yard TDs to Kelce and Kittle anyway, why not see what Burks has got? Or Josh Jackson?

4: If the defense is gonna blow assignments anyway, why not go man on man instead of zone? Be aggressive, bring some extra heat.
 

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1: Don't get down over the Niners game. Officials clamp down on 3-4 teams every week. This time they clamped down on our offense, especially early. Don't let it mess with our heads.

2: Aaron needs to play Lafleur Ball, not McCarthy Ball.

3: Defense needs to be able to cover the middle of the field, especially TEs. Since we're giving up 61 yard TDs to Kelce and Kittle anyway, why not see what Burks has got? Or Josh Jackson?

4: If the defense is gonna blow assignments anyway, why not go man on man instead of zone? Be aggressive, bring some extra heat.
The officials played zero role in the outcome. No
 

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Unless the Giants come up with a running game that nets 150+ yards, the Packers should win this one. Jones is not yet in a position where he can be a game changer at QB. But, he is improving, if you listen to some people. I'm not certain I agree. I think he's treading water, and will, until this season is over.

That said, this is a healing game for the Packers. I have the Packers by 7. They just don't know how to put teams away.
 

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The officials played zero role in the outcome. No
They clamped us down. I mean, that call on Afams? Please. The Jimmy Graham pass, Was Rodgers down when that fumble came out?

Look how well we moved the ball in the third quarter. That's a normal Packers offense.

Just how the league is nowadays. Sometimes it plays for us, sometimes against.
 
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