Post Game: Packers Defeat Bears 28-21

Players know they can hold every play. Refs are not going to be throwing a flag every play for holding. You run 60-70 plays hold every one maybe get 3-4 holdings tops every game. Hold every play and get away with it 95% of the time so why not do it.
That's the point - they know they can because current officiating allows it. Nobody wants to see a flag on every play, but most people want to see blatant penalties getting a flag. If you have to throw a flag on the first play, to set a tone, then do it - but don't wait until a crucial time in the game to throw one, when it's been going on all game.
 
That's the point - they know they can because current officiating allows it. Nobody wants to see a flag on every play, but most people want to see blatant penalties getting a flag. If you have to throw a flag on the first play, to set a tone, then do it - but don't wait until a crucial time in the game to throw one, when it's been going on all game.
i still think coaches would encourage their ol to go ahead and hold on every play if they have to until the referees start consistently enforcing the rule. the seahawks did that with their defense during the "legion of boom" years. "go ahead and interfere. they're not going to call pass interference every time."
 
I know the mentality is they aren't going to call it every time so go ahead and do it.

BUT, the officials should be calling it every time. You know what will happen if they call 30 holds in a game. Holding will stop.
that's what i'm saying. but the counter-argument is there will be less passing, more qb injuries, and less scoring/exciting plays. that's why nothing is going to change. although they could at least change the rule.
 


I thought this was a good little clip on the subject. It's not just about still frames of grabbing the jersey
 


I thought this was a good little clip on the subject. It's not just about still frames of grabbing the jersey

how about non-still frames of parsons in a choke hold or with an ol having their arms wrapped completely around him?
 
how about non-still frames of parsons in a choke hold or with an ol having their arms wrapped completely around him?
The arm around the throat when a pass rusher is ripping under an OL isn't illegal, even though it looks like a choke hold.

Don't get me wrong, the refs are clearly singling him out for this treatment and letting some really egregious stuff go, but it goes both ways. Take a look at Anthony Belton on Jacobs game winning TD. It was a laughably bad hold that wasn't called.
 
The arm around the throat when a pass rusher is ripping under an OL isn't illegal, even though it looks like a choke hold.

Don't get me wrong, the refs are clearly singling him out for this treatment and letting some really egregious stuff go, but it goes both ways. Take a look at Anthony Belton on Jacobs game winning TD. It was a laughably bad hold that wasn't called.
well, i've heard this term "ripping" mentioned a few times. i have no idea what that means, or how it can be clearly defined in a way that you could interpret i for a rule, but it seems to me that in the video that i saw of that choke hold the ol did not have his feet in from of parsons. rather, he was off to one side of parsons, and restrained him from turning the corner towards the qb. and if all you have to do to not get called for holding is to keep your feet in front of the defender, then i guess all of our ol need to start doing the bear-hug thing immediately. i thought if you have your arms wrapped around the defender, that was clear holding. i guess i never heard the feet in front terminology before.
 


I thought this was a good little clip on the subject. It's not just about still frames of grabbing the jersey

That's the same BS Giannis was being told this year when he was being mugged he was playing through it so they won't call the foul because he's not flopping.
 
well, i've heard this term "ripping" mentioned a few times. i have no idea what that means, or how it can be clearly defined in a way that you could interpret i for a rule, but it seems to me that in the video that i saw of that choke hold the ol did not have his feet in from of parsons. rather, he was off to one side of parsons, and restrained him from turning the corner towards the qb. and if all you have to do to not get called for holding is to keep your feet in front of the defender, then i guess all of our ol need to start doing the bear-hug thing immediately. i thought if you have your arms wrapped around the defender, that was clear holding. i guess i never heard the feet in front terminology before.
What is a rip move in the NFL?


A rip move is a pass-rush technique where the rusher will rip through the protection by going low and swinging through in almost an uppercut motion. Houston tried to do that on the play, and NFL rules allow offensive linemen to counter rip moves with blocks that would normally be called holding

 
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