2021 Off Season Thread

It is not the same defense.... he plays a completely different style than MP. Very core based off the 4-3. He will use a 4-2-5 look a lot. Honestly the safe hire.
So if we go a 4-3 or hybrid 4-3 I am guessing we are moving Gary to a DE spot. Would Z. Smith fit well in a 4-3 as a OLB? I am guessing we would have to go find another OLB if P. Smith would be a cap cut. Would Barnes or Martin be decent fits as a ILB in this scheme that we would not have to worry about drafting one? Though would a 4-2-5 look work as we have Alexander at CB and nothing else and having to hope Amos and Savage play solid.
 
So if we go a 4-3 or hybrid 4-3 I am guessing we are moving Gary to a DE spot. Would Z. Smith fit well in a 4-3 as a OLB? I am guessing we would have to go find another OLB if P. Smith would be a cap cut. Would Barnes or Martin be decent fits as a ILB in this scheme that we would not have to worry about drafting one? Though would a 4-2-5 look work as we have Alexander at CB and nothing else and having to hope Amos and Savage play solid.
Your already playing nickel and dime most of the time so that's moot regardless of who gets hired.... again stop overthinking personal and scheme and think who fits the HC culture and style. ML needs a ying to his yang.
 
It is not the same defense.... he plays a completely different style than MP. Very core based off the 4-3. He will use a 4-2-5 look a lot. Honestly the safe hire. Similar to the bend but don't break style used by KC the past two seasons.
He probably is a safe hire. like you said all other teams who have hired new coaches and staffs or just even replaced DC's have already picked the bones of the best guys. Going outside at this point could be like hiring the last ST coach you were the last team without a ST coach and got to pick the garbage that was left in the can.
 
He probably is a safe hire. like you said all other teams who have hired new coaches and staffs or just even replaced DC's have already picked the bones of the best guys. Going outside at this point could be like hiring the last ST coach you were the last team without a ST coach and got to pick the garbage that was left in the can.
I don't love having to do that but he does have solid coverage schemes and your fronts would be designed to stop the run etc. Perfect no but a lot of the other guys less 2 have never called a D and that could be rough the first half of next season.
 
I don't love having to do that but he does have solid coverage schemes and your fronts would be designed to stop the run etc. Perfect no but a lot of the other guys less 2 have never called a D and that could be rough the first half of next season.
Most first time DC's also are guys hired to a team that is replacing it's entire staff or promoting from within when a DC left to take a HC job. Usually won't see a playoff team hire a 1st time DC if it is getting rid of it's old one.
 
Couple of things here and it actually a reply to the community here as a whole not just answering this post which is steller I might add. Your all overthinking the 4 and 3 man front thing.... because of the nature of the base spread scheme it's not as big a deal as it was say 15 years ago.

Gary isn't an OLB... never was he slides down to the off DE position ( Elephant, bandit whatever) and Kenny Clark goes back inside where he can be disruptive. However, most teams are playing a fair amount of 3-3-5 on 2 downs and most go dime on third down so it's not a big deal.

ILB is a big deal and needs to be drafted in round 1 or 2. Yes I know about CB and WR but the longer we wait the dumber we look trying to plug trash into the spot... draft a good one and move on already.

Again same as above the zone or man argument is overthought, everybody plays a mix of the two however GB can't really play Man press with the group it has no matter what they do up front...too slow for that. Off man with combo coverages mixed in seems to be where they make hay and hopefully ML is seeing the same on video.

My point is you don't hire a guy based on personal as much as what he believes and his attitude toward culture etc. MP thought watching last year's beat down on tape before the NFC title game was more important than film study on TB and keeping his defense focused... bad juju.

Last tidbit GB is going to have to dig because the best DC are already off the market this late. FCC( ML takes his time and finds a guy that fits HIS mindset not what we or the front office want.
Mark, What are your thoughts on Tulsa LB Zaven Collins At #29?
Could they consider moving Savage to Nickel CB, fill his Safety spot with someone like Scott or Black and then draft a big Safety like Talanoa Hufanga (6-1/215) or Divine Deablo (6-3/226) to fill a hybrid Safety/LB role?
 
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260...DE in the NFL. I wouldn't touch him....Gary already fits that mold. We need an athletic MLB who can cover
Looks like Packers best options in Rounds 1 or 2 would be Nick Bolton, Chazz Surratt, or Jabril Cox
 
Mark, What are your thoughts on Tulsa LB Zaven Collins At #29?
Could they consider moving Savage to Nickel CB, fill his Safety spot with someone like Scott or Black and then draft a big Safety like Talanoa Hufanga (6-1/215) or Divine Deablo (6-3/226) to fill a hybrid Safety/LB role?
Dan, I would wait on a hire before even sniffing anything like this. My guess the hybrid days are over.
 
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