College To Pro Misconceptions

Packinatl

Member
Member
Messages
8,698
Burks the Packers bought in that he was a hybrid player that could play LB and was very smart and could be the guy to call the defense for GB.
He was a LB at Vandy so not buying the hybrid thing. He was just not a good fit…and trade up? Head scratcher
 
Last edited:

rpiotr01

Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
Messages
3,459
He barely contributes on teams, it's not just about fit, the guy can't play in the NFL.
 

Packinatl

Member
Member
Messages
8,698
if they can't see that after three years in the nfl, they have bigger problems than draft evaluation.
Unfortunately economics play in also. He under a rookie deal with a minimal cap number. I know it’s not a popular take and yes they could technically save cash / cap cutting him but you then have to add a body. Let’s be candid he’s not getting another contract in GB
 

GBP4EVER

Draft Guru
2021 Draft Guru
Messages
9,060
I think he's a cut, along with Jackson and Sternberger.
I don't think any get cut they won't give up on them.

Burks they like for special teams. Sternberger has been hurt he will likely be the 2nd TE on the team. Lewis is nothing but a blocking TE.

Jackson they lack depth at CB he makes the team just for that likely
 

44blitz

Founding Member
Moderator
Messages
2,146
Good morning,

Apparently, my comments on this are being misconstrued and that's not the case. Very quickly and simply, just because Player A or B regardless of position or team drafted was a terror in college does NOT mean that will automatically transfer to the NFL.


If Joe WR played in the SEC, He faced 3-4 players defensively that had X speed, could tackle great etc, now EVERY week they'll be 9-10 players on the field all the time that match those skills. So you're looking for players not with all those physical traits but it's up to your scouts and personal staff to find the guys with the intangibles that sets them apart.

Also, do NOT underestimate the lack of skills from players who have never ever played in anything but a spread offense or defended the same... it's a big factor regardless of your wanting to believe it. Have seen that firsthand and heard many many coaches speak on the subject.

Now let's just cut the bullcrap here, What has Brian G shown you the past 3 seasons as far as finding those guys that get anyone's dander up? I realize that for some it's a killjoy but that's the cold water over the head reality. That's it..my only point.
100% true. But even if you take out the spread game and go back 30 years only a very small percentage of college players make it in the pro's. Guy's are bigger,stronger and faster in the NFL. You have to work your butt off everyday off season just to stay in the mix unless your a top 10 guy on a team and even then someone is always gunning for your spot.

Gute has a lot of TT in him, always looking for a diamond in the rough. Great when he's right but big let down when he's not.
 

rpiotr01

Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
Messages
3,459
100% true. But even if you take out the spread game and go back 30 years only a very small percentage of college players make it in the pro's. Guy's are bigger,stronger and faster in the NFL. You have to work your butt off everyday off season just to stay in the mix unless your a top 10 guy on a team and even then someone is always gunning for your spot.

Gute has a lot of TT in him, always looking for a diamond in the rough. Great when he's right but big let down when he's not.
I’m ok looking for diamonds in the rough. Bigger issue with Gute is that, when presented with several clean, cut and polished diamonds, he somehow still pulls zirconia.
 

TW

Moderator
Moderator
Messages
4,322
Evaluation of college players and their contributions that will be made at the pro level is not an exact science. Some good players slip through the cracks, and sometimes don't even end up being drafted.

I think the DITR is more of a guy who has more native skills related to the pro game than the college game, and scouts just don't see it. I've seen this happen at so many levels of sports, and so many coaches just don't see their own failure with it.

In baseball, I took a bunch of kids that nobody wanted for their Little League teams in a small city, and turned them into City Champs. It was all about find out what they could do, and letting them enjoy doing it. It wasn't me who made it happen, it was them.

You'd be amazed at how many coaches who'd sent these kids home, telling them they weren't good enough to play, who ended up eating their words. We lost our first 3 games, then ran the table winning the next 16, and swept the city championships. Since all my kids were the youngest ones as well, they were on the team the following year, and won all 16 games we played. When it came time for the playoffs, the other teams just handed the title to our kids. They'd been humiliated enough. To be honest, they deserved it. No kids should be dumped from a program.
 
Top