Brewers 2022 Season Thread

Proving even more Stearns screwed up they now DFA'd Dinelson lamet after trading for him. I am no fan of Stearns and hope he does leave to go to the Mets after the season.
 
The Hader trade was disappointing in that it didn't really bring a single high quality player in return. They DFA'd one guy already. They got a so-so closer and a couple of mid-level prospects. Sends a bad message to the clubhouse.

At the same time, I'm not sure this was strictly a Stearns move. I think the owner wants to stay "competitive" rather than go for it all and risk a long rebuild. Can't totally blame him, but I sense some owner meddling.

My biggest complaint is that it seems like you could have gotten this same mediocre return on a Hader trade after the season.
 
57packer said:
The Hader trade was disappointing in that it didn't really bring a single high quality player in return. They DFA'd one guy already. They got a so-so closer and a couple of mid-level prospects. Sends a bad message to the clubhouse.

At the same time, I'm not sure this was strictly a Stearns move. I think the owner wants to stay "competitive" rather than go for it all and risk a long rebuild. Can't totally blame him, but I sense some owner meddling.

My biggest complaint is that it seems like you could have gotten this same mediocre return on a Hader trade after the season.
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No doubt owner did not want to pay $15 million next year. Agree that trading Hader now for what they got was mistake. All 3 trades at deadline were head scrtachers as they made no sense to do them and the biggest need in getting a bat was not made.
 
GBP4EVER said:
Can't say he was good 2 years ago when he's getting lite up this year. It's what is he doing right now
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My point was you can’t look at one year in a vacuum. That holds true in any sport
 
57packer said:
The Hader trade was disappointing in that it didn't really bring a single high quality player in return. They DFA'd one guy already. They got a so-so closer and a couple of mid-level prospects. Sends a bad message to the clubhouse.

At the same time, I'm not sure this was strictly a Stearns move. I think the owner wants to stay "competitive" rather than go for it all and risk a long rebuild. Can't totally blame him, but I sense some owner meddling.

My biggest complaint is that it seems like you could have gotten this same mediocre return on a Hader trade after the season.
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It’s a small market team and this is part of the cycle, like it or not. I am not thrilled on the timing but it’s anyones guess what they get in December.

I guess the question becomes what’s realistic compensation for a closer? Would a top line starter (1-2 rotation guy ) have more value? Probably. And would you drain your system for a closed that only has 1 year of financial control? Probably not.
 
FlaPack said:
It’s a small market team and this is part of the cycle, like it or not. I am not thrilled on the timing but it’s anyones guess what they get in December.

I guess the question becomes what’s realistic compensation for a closer? Would a top line starter (1-2 rotation guy ) have more value? Probably. And would you drain your system for a closed that only has 1 year of financial control? Probably not.
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I agree that the Brewers were going to have to get rid of Hader. In their market his salary was a deal breaker. You can certainly argue they might not have gotten as much or much more for him in December, but trading him now says you aren't giving your current roster their best chance to win.

My complaint with the compensation is that they did not get a single, quality, major league ready piece that can help you win this year. They got a couple of minor leaguers who won't do anything for the team this year. They got a guy they didn't even want so they DFA'd him. Bottom line, the only help for this year's roster is another closer/reliever. In terms of what you are doing for the team right now, you basically swapped one of the best closers in history for a reliever who's just "pretty good".

The players and fans don't really give a damn about those mid-level prospects for the future when the team is in a pennant race right now. If they'd at least gotten a major league ready bat and nothing else, that would have been a move that sends a more positive message. As it is this is just a "money" move and that inspires nobody.
 
57packer said:
I agree that the Brewers were going to have to get rid of Hader. In their market his salary was a deal breaker. You can certainly argue they might not have gotten as much or much more for him in December, but trading him now says you aren't giving your current roster their best chance to win.

My complaint with the compensation is that they did not get a single, quality, major league ready piece that can help you win this year. They got a couple of minor leaguers who won't do anything for the team this year. They got a guy they didn't even want so they DFA'd him. Bottom line, the only help for this year's roster is another closer/reliever. In terms of what you are doing for the team right now, you basically swapped one of the best closers in history for a reliever who's just "pretty good".

The players and fans don't really give a damn about those mid-level prospects for the future when the team is in a pennant race right now. If they'd at least gotten a major league ready bat and nothing else, that would have been a move that sends a more positive message. As it is this is just a "money" move and that inspires nobody.
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I’m not disagreeing with this, timing was what I have questioned since this came down. Not sure what bat out there was value for Hader either. Josh Bell would have been ideal but Washington is in rebuild so it’s not Hader more prospects to get him.
 
I see Williams was not happy about trade at all
 
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