Rodgers Wants Out

[Budman]

Last few years he has stopped his running for yards. Look at the NFCC he did not do it when he sould. I think he has long ago stopped willing to take a hit to get extra yards. He still will though get sacked though I think instead of throwing it away as that's something I think ingraned in him to do.

What I'm saying, is that either way, the perception will become the reality and the media circus will have a feast. Not saying it's right or wrong but it's not going to matter what happens as the media will light it up no matter what.

 

[FlaPack]

Then you say kiss our ass and retire if you want it that if you wont' want to work together and only want it your way retire and lose $96 million the first installment of $11 million is due to us now.

Yeah that’s the way to run an organization

 

[Wolfman]

There is no doubt he loves himself, I really don't care for our front office but I dislike how Aaron is going about this right now more.

I felt the same way when all this started…and still do to a degree. But the more I hear from Murphy, the more I want him gone. The fish rots from the head down and that guy has 400 year old crappie written all over him (I was going to say walleye, but I didn’t want to offend our fellow Packer Backer, Walleye. Plus ‘Crappie’ seemed to be more fitting).

This is the first I’ve weighed in since this all started, so please bear with me. I think the worst thing that could happen was Tom Brady going to TB, having all that pull, and then winning his SEVENTH SB. Guys like Rodgers and Russ Wilson saw that and went, ‘I want some of that!’ And here we are.

I do not agree Love is the issue. I think Love was just the last straw. I believe Aaron’s issues started when they released players he loved (Jordy, Cobb, Kumerow, Matthews, etc) without getting his input. Doesn’t mean they had to follow it. But show him his multiple MVP opinion means SOMETHING. But not in Green Bay. Oh, no!! ‘We run this like Lombardi in the 60’s. Play football and shut-up’. Well, it’s not the 60’s and Vince has been gone a LONG time! I know he was tough. But he was also fair and VERY smart. I think he would have adjusted with the times.

A lot of what Aaron has said seems to almost be pleading with the Packers to make some adjustments to show player’s input matters. I think he wanted changes rather than a new team elsewhere. But no. Not how we do things here. Well, that’s exactly why they have 30 years of HOF QB play and only 2 Super Bowls, as opposed to Brady’s 7!!

To me, Lombardi came across as incredibly smart, prepared, and no-nonsense while Murphy comes across as incredibly unprepared, all nonsense and a complete disconnected dolt. THAT’S where the change needs to come, in my opinion.

But now that we’re here and GB is not going to get rid of Murphy, I would trade Rodgers while his value is sky-high. The relationship is probably damaged beyond repair, especially after Murphy’s recent idiotic comments (didn’t he wear a helmet when he played???). But I do not for one second believe the ‘brain trust’ in Green Bay would do anything intelligent with all the added capital. Just my opinion. I would love to see Murphy say something intelligent that would change my mind. But I’m not getting that vibe.

BTW, I do NOT like the way Aaron is handling this either. He is deserting his teammates, coaches, fans (the ones that made him so filthy rich in the first place!), and is coming across as a total Prima-Dona. Quit hiding behind reports and other peoples’ talk and rumors. Come out and be straight up. He’s making it easier to want to see him gone too. How did he like being put in such an awkward position when Favre pulled what he did?! Doesn’t seem to bother him to put Jordan (who comes across as a genuinely nice guy) in the same place. But you ‘love’ Jordan, right Aaron? Seems to me you only have eyes for YOU!

Sorry for the long rant. Been building for awhile. Okay everyone….fire away!! I’ll be in the corner ducking!! ;D

 

[GBP4EVER]

I felt the same way when all this started…and still do to a degree. But the more I hear from Murphy, the more I want him gone. The fish rots from the head down and that guy has 400 year old crappie written all over him (I was going to say walleye, but I didn’t want to offend our fellow Packer Backer, Walleye. Plus ‘Crappie’ seemed to be more fitting).

This is the first I’ve weighed in since this all started, so please bear with me. I think the worst thing that could happen was Tom Brady going to TB, having all that pull, and then winning his SEVENTH SB. Guys like Rodgers and Russ Wilson saw that and went, ‘I want some of that!’ And here we are.

I do not agree Love is the issue. I think Love was just the last straw. I believe Aaron’s issues started when they released players he loved (Jordy, Cobb, Kumerow, Matthews, etc) without getting his input. Doesn’t mean they had to follow it. But show him his multiple MVP opinion means SOMETHING. But not in Green Bay. Oh, no!! ‘We run this like Lombardi in the 60’s. Play football and shut-up’. Well, it’s not the 60’s and Vince has been gone a LONG time! I know he was tough. But he was also fair and VERY smart. I think he would have adjusted with the times.

A lot of what Aaron has said seems to almost be pleading with the Packers to make some adjustments to show player’s input matters. I think he wanted changes rather than a new team elsewhere. But no. Not how we do things here. Well, that’s exactly why they have 30 years of HOF QB play and only 2 Super Bowls, as opposed to Brady’s 7!!

To me, Lombardi came across as incredibly smart, prepared, and no-nonsense while Murphy comes across as incredibly unprepared, all nonsense and a complete disconnected dolt. THAT’S where the change needs to come, in my opinion.

But now that we’re here and GB is not going to get rid of Murphy, I would trade Rodgers while his value is sky-high. The relationship is probably damaged beyond repair, especially after Murphy’s recent idiotic comments (didn’t he wear a helmet when he played???). But I do not for one second believe the ‘brain trust’ in Green Bay would do anything intelligent with all the added capital. Just my opinion. I would love to see Murphy say something intelligent that would change my mind. But I’m not getting that vibe.

BTW, I do NOT like the way Aaron is handling this either. He is deserting his teammates, coaches, fans (the ones that made him so filthy rich in the first place!), and is coming across as a total Prima-Dona. Quit hiding behind reports and other peoples’ talk and rumors. Come out and be straight up. He’s making it easier to want to see him gone too. How did he like being put in such an awkward position when Favre pulled what he did?! Doesn’t seem to bother him to put Jordan (who comes across as a genuinely nice guy) in the same place. But you ‘love’ Jordan, right Aaron? Seems to me you only have eyes for YOU!

Sorry for the long rant. Been building for awhile. Okay everyone….fire away!! I’ll be in the corner ducking!! ;D

Thing is Rodgers wants to be heard but yet we can't do nothing because he has to be the the top paid QB becuase he thinks GB can go get these guys to make the team better but it's there problem to pay top end money to guys who are already on the team. You can't pay top end money to guys and then still go be active in the FA market to get guys. Plus maybe Rodger does not value the correct guys. Nelson was done when we let him go. Kuemrow had no talent to be on a team.

 

[FlaPack]

Thing is Rodgers wants to be heard but yet we can't do nothing because he has to be the the top paid QB becuase he thinks GB can go get these guys to make the team better but it's there problem to pay top end money to guys who are already on the team. You can't pay top end money to guys and then still go be active in the FA market to get guys. Plus maybe Rodger does not value the correct guys. Nelson was done when we let him go. Kuemrow had no talent to be on a team.

I just don’t see this as a money or input issue. I think that’s being overplayed. Sure he’s not happy with Kumerow or Nelson gone but that’s just window dressing for the media to spin. If he comes out and makes this a control / input thing I stand corrected but this is about his timeline. Is it selfish maybe but the “complicated fella” comment fit the it’s philosophical narrative

 

[Happytime Harley]

I think Thompson had a dry, clear sense of humor and Murphy just totally butchered that phase...

While not that exact phrase, the South (where Thompson is from) has a lot of short and sweet phrases, categorizing people or their moods or problems...

Like he's a simple boy = not hard to figure out, one track mind etc.

This seems like the same exact thing but the opposite... "complicated fella" meaning it's muliple things, they're focused on determine their mood.


The phrase fits absolutely perfectly with Ted Thompson, the Southern phrases and the Rodgers situation, but Mark Murphy (a Northerner)'s delivery of the phrase (at least in out of context print) looks absolutely horrible! And lacking of context clues to what he means by it... and it's easy to read that he meant to mean something else, when he probably doesn't...

I think Murphy meant to be cute and simple, barrow an interesting line from Thompson, but the context (at least the context of that article) was horrible and the execution of it was horrible by Murphy. He meant well, just trying to say Rodgers thinks about a lot of things... but that end result doesn't look pretty. Hopefully Rodgers knew Thompson well enough to know what (I assume) Murphy was going for there.

 

[GBP4EVER]

I just don’t see this as a money or input issue. I think that’s being overplayed. Sure he’s not happy with Kumerow or Nelson gone but that’s just window dressing for the media to spin. If he comes out and makes this a control / input thing I stand corrected but this is about his timeline. Is it selfish maybe but the “complicated fella” comment fit the it’s philosophical narrative

I think it's a mixture of everything I think at first it was not having a say at the table. Then it became well I want to be a packer for life why did you take a QB and now it's I want to be able to say when I am done not you.

 

[FlaPack]

I felt the same way when all this started…and still do to a degree. But the more I hear from Murphy, the more I want him gone. The fish rots from the head down and that guy has 400 year old crappie written all over him (I was going to say walleye, but I didn’t want to offend our fellow Packer Backer, Walleye. Plus ‘Crappie’ seemed to be more fitting).

This is the first I’ve weighed in since this all started, so please bear with me. I think the worst thing that could happen was Tom Brady going to TB, having all that pull, and then winning his SEVENTH SB. Guys like Rodgers and Russ Wilson saw that and went, ‘I want some of that!’ And here we are.

I do not agree Love is the issue. I think Love was just the last straw. I believe Aaron’s issues started when they released players he loved (Jordy, Cobb, Kumerow, Matthews, etc) without getting his input. Doesn’t mean they had to follow it. But show him his multiple MVP opinion means SOMETHING. But not in Green Bay. Oh, no!! ‘We run this like Lombardi in the 60’s. Play football and shut-up’. Well, it’s not the 60’s and Vince has been gone a LONG time! I know he was tough. But he was also fair and VERY smart. I think he would have adjusted with the times.

A lot of what Aaron has said seems to almost be pleading with the Packers to make some adjustments to show player’s input matters. I think he wanted changes rather than a new team elsewhere. But no. Not how we do things here. Well, that’s exactly why they have 30 years of HOF QB play and only 2 Super Bowls, as opposed to Brady’s 7!!

To me, Lombardi came across as incredibly smart, prepared, and no-nonsense while Murphy comes across as incredibly unprepared, all nonsense and a complete disconnected dolt. THAT’S where the change needs to come, in my opinion.

But now that we’re here and GB is not going to get rid of Murphy, I would trade Rodgers while his value is sky-high. The relationship is probably damaged beyond repair, especially after Murphy’s recent idiotic comments (didn’t he wear a helmet when he played???). But I do not for one second believe the ‘brain trust’ in Green Bay would do anything intelligent with all the added capital. Just my opinion. I would love to see Murphy say something intelligent that would change my mind. But I’m not getting that vibe.

BTW, I do NOT like the way Aaron is handling this either. He is deserting his teammates, coaches, fans (the ones that made him so filthy rich in the first place!), and is coming across as a total Prima-Dona. Quit hiding behind reports and other peoples’ talk and rumors. Come out and be straight up. He’s making it easier to want to see him gone too. How did he like being put in such an awkward position when Favre pulled what he did?! Doesn’t seem to bother him to put Jordan (who comes across as a genuinely nice guy) in the same place. But you ‘love’ Jordan, right Aaron? Seems to me you only have eyes for YOU!

Sorry for the long rant. Been building for awhile. Okay everyone….fire away!! I’ll be in the corner ducking!! ;D

Good post but I don’t buy it’s an input issue. It’s controlling his own timeline and philosophical. He’s not a fan of “the GB way” and sees thing thru different lenses. Just me but I think that Rodgers does not like “the business of football”, which honestly I agree that it’s a brutal cut throat business that’s not player friendly. (That a whole separate conversation). He’s sees life after football being more appealing

 

[Budman]

I think Thompson had a dry, clear sense of humor and Murphy just totally butchered that phase...

While not that exact phrase, the South (where Thompson is from) has a lot of short and sweet phrases, categorizing people or their moods or problems...

Like he's a simple boy = not hard to figure out, one track mind etc.

This seems like the same exact thing but the opposite... "complicated fella" meaning it's muliple things, they're focused on determine their mood.


The phrase fits absolutely perfectly with Ted Thompson, the Southern phrases and the Rodgers situation, but Mark Murphy (a Northerner)'s delivery of the phrase (at least in out of context print) looks absolutely horrible! And lacking of context clues to what he means by it... and it's easy to read that he meant to mean something else, when he probably doesn't...

I think Murphy meant to be cute and simple, barrow an interesting line from Thompson, but the context (at least the context of that article) was horrible and the execution of it was horrible by Murphy. He meant well, just trying to say Rodgers thinks about a lot of things... but that end result doesn't look pretty. Hopefully Rodgers knew Thompson well enough to know what (I assume) Murphy was going for there.

Bingo!! Well stated. I thought the same when I read that. He couldn't deliver it as Ted could and he just totally missed on what Ted's intent was.

 

[TW]

I agree with Harley. It reminds me of a story.

Guy goes to prison. First night in his cell, a guy in another cell yells out 71. Everyone in the wing laughs, including his cell mate. About 30 minutes later, another guy yells out 136, and the prisoners roar with laughter. He don't get it, but doesn't know his cell mate well enough to ask.

The next night it happens again. He has to know. Why are they laughing. He asks his cell mate.

"We don't get much to read here." The guy says. "There's this old tattered book of a thousand jokes that has been passed around. We all read it. When someone calls out a number, they're referring to the page and a particular joke. We laugh because we all know the joke.

The following morning, the guy goes to the prison library, and checks the joke book out, and brings it back to his cell. That night, after reading several jokes in the book, he settles on one he likes. He goes to the cell door and yells out, "53!" The silence is deafening. He decides to try another, "94!" Nothing!

"I don't get it." He says to his cell mate. "Nobody laughed when I called out a number!"

"Well," the cell mate said; "some people just tell a joke better than others."

And there it is. Thompson and Murphy.